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	<title>Comments on: Audible.com doesn&#8217;t Say what they mean</title>
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		<title>By: GadgetMan</title>
		<link>http://www.upthetree.com/2003/01/19/audiblecom-doesnt-say-what-they-mean/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>GadgetMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a long-time Audible user like Neal Long (on Windows PC). I am unsure whether my comments will directly apply to Apple iTunes users but for what they are worth:

* The sound quality is good, not great." There are actually 4 different formats (plus a version of one for the Sony IC Recorder). The low end format is especially useful for getting a lot of "Spoken Word" audio into a small amount of space. I can put about 50 hours of audio onto my Rio 500 (128 MB total memory). Yes there are noticable artifacts but perfect for getting books onto my player. I now have an iPod and am reloading all the books I previously purchased in the highest quality format which is comparable to high bitrate mp3.
* They have a lot of content." Check for titles you're interested in before signing up.
* Very easy to use. On Mac OS X (Jaguar) I didn't have to install a thing,..." On Windows PC you must use Audible Manager which manages your collection, transfer to listening device and/or  burning CDs.
* This is no MP3." True, it uses digital rights management, but I do burn books to audio CDs (however many are required for the length of the book at 74 minutes per CD) and listen to them on my car CD player.
* Unfortunately, Audible's advice to 'Download this program to your computer and then burn it to a CD or transfer it to your iPod.' doesn't work, because it's over 8 hours and won't fit onto a CD, nor can I cut it up, because iTunes won't let you. No CD for this track, oh well, there goes that flexibility." Again I don't know how this works on an Apple with iTunes, but Audible Manager on Windows automatically divides the file into the necessary number of CDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a long-time Audible user like Neal Long (on Windows PC). I am unsure whether my comments will directly apply to Apple iTunes users but for what they are worth:</p>
<p>* The sound quality is good, not great.&#8221; There are actually 4 different formats (plus a version of one for the Sony IC Recorder). The low end format is especially useful for getting a lot of &#8220;Spoken Word&#8221; audio into a small amount of space. I can put about 50 hours of audio onto my Rio 500 (128 MB total memory). Yes there are noticable artifacts but perfect for getting books onto my player. I now have an iPod and am reloading all the books I previously purchased in the highest quality format which is comparable to high bitrate mp3.<br />
* They have a lot of content.&#8221; Check for titles you&#8217;re interested in before signing up.<br />
* Very easy to use. On Mac OS X (Jaguar) I didn&#8217;t have to install a thing,&#8230;&#8221; On Windows PC you must use Audible Manager which manages your collection, transfer to listening device and/or  burning CDs.<br />
* This is no MP3.&#8221; True, it uses digital rights management, but I do burn books to audio CDs (however many are required for the length of the book at 74 minutes per CD) and listen to them on my car CD player.<br />
* Unfortunately, Audible&#8217;s advice to &#8216;Download this program to your computer and then burn it to a CD or transfer it to your iPod.&#8217; doesn&#8217;t work, because it&#8217;s over 8 hours and won&#8217;t fit onto a CD, nor can I cut it up, because iTunes won&#8217;t let you. No CD for this track, oh well, there goes that flexibility.&#8221; Again I don&#8217;t know how this works on an Apple with iTunes, but Audible Manager on Windows automatically divides the file into the necessary number of CDs.</p>
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		<title>By: adaycj</title>
		<link>http://www.upthetree.com/2003/01/19/audiblecom-doesnt-say-what-they-mean/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>adaycj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My situation is dictated by the format problem.  I have a new player that does not, and will not (according to the company that makes it) support Audible's format.  I won't be working with Audible anytime soon, because I plan to enjoy my expensive MP3 player for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My situation is dictated by the format problem.  I have a new player that does not, and will not (according to the company that makes it) support Audible&#8217;s format.  I won&#8217;t be working with Audible anytime soon, because I plan to enjoy my expensive MP3 player for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Long</title>
		<link>http://www.upthetree.com/2003/01/19/audiblecom-doesnt-say-what-they-mean/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been with Audible since they started, two books every month for years. Mobile player, Rio 500-600, BE300 and Otis. Every once in a while go back and reload a book to catch up on a continuation, ie Ender - Speaker. Had a few problems but none that couldn't and haven't been worked out. I can't resell or let other's have the audio unless I put it on one of my players but over the years I've probably saved over a $1000.00. I think the people that complain about the way Audible handle's the downloads actually have other goals of what they want to do with the download. Recommend it to everyone, great for traffic and solitary work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been with Audible since they started, two books every month for years. Mobile player, Rio 500-600, BE300 and Otis. Every once in a while go back and reload a book to catch up on a continuation, ie Ender - Speaker. Had a few problems but none that couldn&#8217;t and haven&#8217;t been worked out. I can&#8217;t resell or let other&#8217;s have the audio unless I put it on one of my players but over the years I&#8217;ve probably saved over a $1000.00. I think the people that complain about the way Audible handle&#8217;s the downloads actually have other goals of what they want to do with the download. Recommend it to everyone, great for traffic and solitary work.</p>
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		<title>By: RiotNerd</title>
		<link>http://www.upthetree.com/2003/01/19/audiblecom-doesnt-say-what-they-mean/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>RiotNerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been looking at audible.com for about a month.  I was unable to find any of the important details about the file format (such as is detailed in the first post).  So I signed up. Once you are a member, you need to download the audio manager software.  The long and short, it is not mp3 format and the files are not yours. I cancled (membership time 30min) screw them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking at audible.com for about a month.  I was unable to find any of the important details about the file format (such as is detailed in the first post).  So I signed up. Once you are a member, you need to download the audio manager software.  The long and short, it is not mp3 format and the files are not yours. I cancled (membership time 30min) screw them.</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://www.upthetree.com/2003/01/19/audiblecom-doesnt-say-what-they-mean/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah ok- that makes much more sense as far as savings are concerned. Though I guess I'm not an audio book person anyway. I want paper copies of everything!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah ok- that makes much more sense as far as savings are concerned. Though I guess I&#8217;m not an audio book person anyway. I want paper copies of everything!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.upthetree.com/2003/01/19/audiblecom-doesnt-say-what-they-mean/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you become a member it costs $14.95 and you can download 1 book per month, so if you wanted Catch me If You Can as your book for the month, it would only cost you $14.95. That was what I meant, by a $30 savings. Sorry, I wasn't being clear.

I actually just bought an audio book CD from Amazon called Ruby, because I loved it so much growing up. If you haven't heard of it before, check it out. I didn't trust Audible enough to risk not being able to listen to it in the future. (plus they don't carry it anyway.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you become a member it costs $14.95 and you can download 1 book per month, so if you wanted Catch me If You Can as your book for the month, it would only cost you $14.95. That was what I meant, by a $30 savings. Sorry, I wasn&#8217;t being clear.</p>
<p>I actually just bought an audio book CD from Amazon called Ruby, because I loved it so much growing up. If you haven&#8217;t heard of it before, check it out. I didn&#8217;t trust Audible enough to risk not being able to listen to it in the future. (plus they don&#8217;t carry it anyway.)</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://www.upthetree.com/2003/01/19/audiblecom-doesnt-say-what-they-mean/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you only saved $15 actually, between the b&#038;n price you quoted and the audible.com price. doesn't seem worth it to me, what with the rest of the draw backs. I'd actually pay $15 extra to really have my own copy of the audio format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you only saved $15 actually, between the b&#038;n price you quoted and the audible.com price. doesn&#8217;t seem worth it to me, what with the rest of the draw backs. I&#8217;d actually pay $15 extra to really have my own copy of the audio format.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
		<link>http://www.upthetree.com/2003/01/19/audiblecom-doesnt-say-what-they-mean/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intresting...I never knew such a service existed. I personally think it's kind of a gyp though. I don't think i would feel like the file was mine either if I had restraints on what I could do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intresting&#8230;I never knew such a service existed. I personally think it&#8217;s kind of a gyp though. I don&#8217;t think i would feel like the file was mine either if I had restraints on what I could do with it.</p>
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